Big Brother 4

[amnesiac]

http//www.channel4.com/bigbrother/media/topbar/eye.jpgBack to Our Roots!


After weeks of rumour and speculation we can finally confirm that the fourth series of Big Brother will start at the end of May. Twelve new contestants will enter the most famous house in Britain, with one triumphant winner emerging £70,000 richer nine weeks later.

This year, Big Brother is going back to its roots. There will be no rich/poor divide, just 12 people living together and getting voted out as the weeks progress. As usual, they will be cut off from the outside world - but with their every move observed by a host of cameras and recording equipment.

The weekly task is also coming back - with a vengeance. The housemates will have to work together as a team on a task that will determine their weekly food budget, and this year there's no playing safe. The stakes - if not the steaks - will be high.

Each week, the housemates will be required to place a minimum 50% bet on the outcome, rather than the 10% of previous years. If they fail, they’ll have to live on an unappetising sounding diet of chickpeas and cauliflowers. Which could have some unwelcome repercussions…

In addition, the housemates will still take part in a live challenge each Saturday night. And, of course, Big Brother will also have plenty of surprises up its sleeve. As the rules state

"Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time."

There are, however, no changes proposed for the eviction process. Every Monday, each participant will enter the Diary Room and nominate two fellow housemates for eviction. The two or more housemates receiving the most votes are then put up for the public eviction vote.

So forget the frills, forget the gimmicks. This year, it's back to basics. As executive producer Gigi Eligoloff says "The absolute essence of the show is the people and their existence, cutting individuals off from society and getting them to live together as a community.

"Big Brother is all about character and personality and this year's focus should allow people the scope to reveal who they really are.

"All this and an all-important game to play - just what will people do for £70,000 and what tactics, if any, will they employ to stay?"

But will the tactics - or even the tictacs - work? In the end, as ever, you decide. It's coming soon. Keep an eye out for it...
www.channel4.com/bigbrother

Yes Rosh, I am a Big Brother Shuper-Fan...

[redbulljunkie]

Ah feck, just kill it off already. I especially hate those weekly taks (never seen one but hate the idea of it). Yay, let's all play nicely as a deem because that's the way psychologists have deemed people should interact.

[amnesiac]

It was psychologists who deemed that human beings should interact with each other, combine talents, pool ideas and work together. Never knew that.

[redbulljunkie]

It's not that I'm on about, it's the whole "lab rats" thing, oh look at them interacting. Oh dear that one didn't fit into it's predefined role in the group, let's punish it by denying it of food.

[amnesiac]

When has a British Big Brother contestant ever been deprived of food for not fulfilling a predefined role?

[redbulljunkie]

You don't play nicely as a team, you lose some of your food budget

[amnesiac]

If you don't succeed at a team task, you lose some of the food budget. There is no punsihemnt for not "fulfilling a predetermined" role. Teamwaork is a necessary in all walks of life... the group task gives the contestants something to focus on and prepare for, often influences the group dynamics and personal relationships and makes for some damn entertaining television. If you want to criticise the weekly trask, you'll have to watch one first ;)

[redbulljunkie]

Season 1 had its Nasty nick, season 2 had its Brian Dowling. Season 3 had nothing. They should have killed it off after Season 4. Actually Nasty Nick was exactly what the doctor ordered. However "bastard" wasn't one of the pre-defined roles so he was evicted, even though bastards are an everyday part of real life.

[amnesiac]

That's funny, most commentators at the time and fans of the show suspect Nick might have been a Channel 4/Endemol plant and everybody realised that the production team waived the disqualification rules for weeks because the "ba**ard* as you refer to him was creating such good television...
Oh and Season 3 gave us Jade Goody, the most frightening thing since fear was first measured in the British Isles on April 27th 9,866 BC.

[redbulljunkie]

quotethe "ba**ard* as you refer to him was creating such good television...

Exactly

[amnesiac]

I'm a bit slow rbj... what exactly?

[redbulljunkie]

quote I'm a bit slow rbj...

Exactly

[amnesiac]

Rather poor way to limp out of a reality TV debate...

[redbulljunkie]

Just having a bit of fun. I still think that people should quit while they're ahead. 4 seasons is just too much for the big brother format. (Look what happened to the simpsons).

[amnesiac]

The BB format is low cost, massively popular with advertisers, the viewing audiences and the Red Tops (boo!) alike. Even last year the show generated much column inches in the broadsheets and as you and I have proved always polarises opinion and causes debate and controversy.
If Channel 4 didn't have Big brother to fall back on they would be in serious financial difficulties. They've already massively trimmed their workforce and virtually shut down FilmFour in an attmept to stem losses. The advertising revenue generated by Big Brother, the interactive streams with BT, the increased e4 signup, the revenues from voting is phenomenol... Big brother alsdo gives our own Graham Norton his biggest audiences ) And it even pulled in a few viwers to RiSe last year!

[redbulljunkie]

so the only reason to keep it going is for the revenue. Hmmm, sounds a little like Fox and the simpsons.

[damien]

Well RBJ, revenue is what they're there for. Its cheap Television and it gets an audience. Christ sake, just look at the salon, now if thats not a fly on the wall look at paint drying I don't know what is. When you think of the cost of a show like friends and the revenue generated from it and thena show like BB or the Salon and its revenue you'll see that it makes sense. BB is shite though. They should make a real life version of the jap movie Battle Royale, that I'd watch.

[redbulljunkie]

yeah true. God now you've left me disillusioned and bitter at the world. It's like they said on the Simpsons "tv companies are in love with reality shows because they don't have to pay actors or writers".

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[jive]

Going into convulsions big brother i've been talking about it for almost a month. Amnesiac we could talk for hours about that show and you said everything above i would have. Since it's a friday start date and usually around the 25th i'm guessing it's the 23rd of this month (the day before eurovision i'll be in gay overload) Do you think they'll introduce head of the household as a tempory thing this year? It's been around for a while now?

[jive]

Amnesiac have you seen the new look interior of the house very nice. Im gettin ideas

[solice]

oh whoopy di do. 10 weeks of watching some northerners pick there noses while some essex girl scratches her ass. seriously i can tell you the outcome now. the most interesting and intellectual will be voted out first and the person with the lowest iq will win. oh mother of god shoot me now.

i will be the first to admit that i was hooked on the first series but its becoming too predictable. craig, helen, jade, brian. where is the brain, where is the interest. its nowhere. its absent. the only thing now that could really push me over the edge is the bitterly disappointing thought that channel 4 has the next three series for big bro commissioned. thats including series 4.

but whats the alternative reality tv show out there, get me out of here with its minor celebrities, rubbish. jailbreak with its scripted storyline. the real world with its american propaganda, beautiful rich ppl. survivor and treasure island with its almost pathetic backstabbing. or the new one from ireland, cabin fever, lets not be too harsh and presume that it will be utter crap, it may only just be crap.

i for one wont be joining in the hysteria and loudly campaigning to vote for the most dim witted fool this summer.

[redbulljunkie]

solice you may have dissed the simpsons (which is fair enough if you've only seen the later ones or the very early ones I suppose) but you've totally redeemed yourself in my view.

[solice]

i stand by all previous cooments i made about the simpsons but as much of a scurge they are to the world, jade goody and the evil chickens are worse.

[amnesiac]

Apparently it's pigs this year solice, no chickens... and no, Jade Goody isn't appearing in the sty...
Producers have promised "no gimmicks" Jive... HoH completely changes the nature of the game so i doubt we'll see it but I am sceptical it's compeltely "back to basics" either...

[damien]

They should really make it back to basics. Put em in a cave, no furniture, no beds and they have to kill their food.

[redbulljunkie]

you can guarantee that's been done before, the only way they can make it fun is by making each other the food. Make it really really nasty by making sure they eat all their vegetables...

[amnesiac]

Cave, no furniture, no beds, have to kill food....
may I recommend SurvivorMarquesas? (not's Mark's ass!)

[redbulljunkie]

freudian slip amnesiac? hmmm, there's an idea... A game show where the last person on the show with their virginity intact wins the grand prize[;)]

[amnesiac]

Isn't that called Barney and Friends?
Or A Year at Ballymaloooooooe?

[amnesiac]

From Channel 4 WEBSITE...

Davina McCall's back with the two live eviction shows each Friday on Channel 4. In the first, we discover who tops the public eviction poll. In the second, the evicted housemate says their final (sometimes) fond farewells to the others - before leaving the house for the last time.

***
Now Channel 4 are famoyus for leaving hints on the BB website, so does anybody else find the word sometimes a little interesting? Surely we're not going to see evicted housemates back in the house this year?

[amnesiac]

The bars are gone, the rich/poor divide is a fading memory, and we're back to the pure, original reality TV format. Big Brother is going back to its roots 12 people living together under the unrelenting gaze of 24 hour surveillance, cut off from the world and gradually getting voted out as the weeks progress.

But Big Brother has promised a few surprises this year.

And if Big Brother did decide it needed some wacky new ideas, it wouldn't need to look too far for inspiration. The show has been aired in 22 countries around the world, from Argentina to Switzerland, Romania to the USA. Each of these countries has added its own unique spin to the Big Brother experience.

How about having one day a week set aside for crazy gambling games, for instance? Not just established games like roulette or cards, but wagers that involve some real physical commitment. Like eating a bottle of ketchup in record time, shaving one's head for the cameras or even piercing a much-loved body part onscreen…

Too graphic? Too unlikely? Well, exactly those sort of things happened every Wednesday on Big Brother Poland.

Or how about instead of six men and six women entering the house, this year Big Brother begins with 11 men and one woman? She has to nominate three men, one of whom is voted out the next day by viewers. The next morning, a new woman enters the house and she has to do the same. This goes on until six men and six women are left.

Too convoluted? Too… silly? Try telling that to Big Brother Belgium - that's how they began their series.

What if a football hero and national icon like David Beckham popped into the house one day for a spot of keepy-uppy with the housemates? (Diego Maradona did just that in Argentina, raising money for charitable projects such as building beds for orphanages.)

Or maybe the reward for winning Saturday night's live challenge could be a trip out of the house for a couple of days to the Notting Hill Carnival? (Two housemates in Brazil were allowed out to enjoy the carnival in Rio de Janeiro.)

Well, these are all possibilities - but it seems unlikely they'll be needed. Experience tells us that the UK housemates are more than capable of providing us with a few surprises of their own…

[amnesiac]

Jade and her kebab... oh the humanity! (or lack thereof!!!)

[redbulljunkie]

jade in a kebab - hmmmm[})]

[solice]

jade on a stick. it would probably be the only bit of excitment she would ever get.[;)][;)]

[redbulljunkie]

just when you thought the meat rotating on the stick in abrakebabra couldn't get any uglier [D]

[jive]

i thnink the (sometimes) was refering to the farewells sometimes being fond amnesiac. I think big brother is going to be oure bb this year no gimmicks but with suprises in store more like bb2 and less like bb3.

Have you seen the eye adverts that have been placed all over british landmarks for those that haven't http//www.circlemakers.org/bigbrother.html i've made quite a nice wallpaper for my desktop outa them

[amnesiac]

It begins tonight...
six men...
six women...
one dermot o' leary...
mmm.... lsot my train of thought...

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Tonight at 8.30pm Channel 4
Any time you care to turn on your TV for the next nine weeks e4

[Tom RED]

Nominations already and someone is going to be evicted next Friday. It looks good this year. The interior of the house looks tres cool too, very retro 1960's sci-fi B-movie with all the curves. I think the show has always had very sci-fi theme anyway, well obviously from the name Big Brother taken from George Orwell's 1984. But if you told anyone 15 years ago about a gameshow that the contestants were shut away from the outside world with 24 hour surveilance, anyone would think it came straight out of a sci-fi novel. The Human League took there name froma sciifi film that had a similar theme I think.

I think Jon will go he seems really boring so far although its too early to judge. There seems to be no gay or lesbian contestant. Scott said he doesn't want a girlfriend and that his two best friends are girls so maybe he might surprise us. It seems unlikely.


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[adrian]

I'm already hooked. Been watching all morning on E4. Loved last night - Ray is already one of my faves. Loved hearing his sister (in thick Dub accent) telling him to "have fun, d'ya hear me?"

Also, just how pretty is Federico? [)]

Mr. BadAttitude Man Jon should be out this week.

[amnesiac]

It's a slow burner... jut like last year. Haven't had a chance to watch much yet. Detest Federico though... hwat a pompous self-important git... he makes Alex Sibley look positively humble! Love Cameron and Scott. The girlies are much easier on the eyes than previous years aren't they?

[KTS]

Please don't boo me off the stage, but I've never seen a single episode of Big Brother, from any of its seasons.

[amnesiac]

So, who's going to go tonight?
I've voted for Federico... I absolutely despise him... Scott and Nush are my two *personal* early favourites... btoh seem like genuinely nice people... in fact the entire group seems very likeable this year...
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[redbulljunkie]

I like Scott (yes the shame I've watched it, I suppose it does have its place during that time of the day when nothing else is on). Haven't seen Nush during the times when I've switched on, but I heard she's a good rebellious streak, is funny and nice.

[amnesiac]

Shock shock horror horror! RBJ watching Big Brother? Whatever can the world be coming to!??!?! Even die hard fans tend to skip the first two weeks [;)]

[amnesiac]

I'm really enjoying this series of Big Brother. I like the "Back to Basics" approach. Jon and Federico really make my blood boil though. Is Jon possibly the most annoying man on the planet? In a way I hope he stays in the house because comments such as "Cameron I really wish you'd support me" as he threw a wobbly over bell ringing, the infamous "perfect toaster" concept and correcting the group on the lyrics to "Hotel California" plus his 20 million trips to the Diary Room every day make for great TV!

I hope Federico is evicted on Friday night. Eye Candy (AND GLASWEGIAN!) he may be but he a pompous, arrognat chauvinist who is lazy, dull and so stuck up his own arse he must have forgotten which end is up!

As for the only female nominee this week, Sissy... I hope she satys. She's quite cute in a Ginger scouser way. She's quite emotional but I think she adds character to the group. And if Sissy goes, we're down to just three girls...

To vote for Federico text "VOTE FEDERICO" to 53444 (ROI - Vodafone, O2 and meteor customers)

[redbulljunkie]

tuned in the other day to watch jon attempt to take out his aggression on a tent peg but fail miserably and keep hitting himself with the mallet in the legs. Comic genius.

[amnesiac]

Are you warming to it RBJ? What I like about the e4 coverage is you can dip in whenever you're bored. It's also strangely comforting to watch familiar characters sleeping afetr you come in from a night out.

[redbulljunkie]

not really warming to it, I used always switch over during the ads, but usually end up seeing someone get up to go to the jacks or something. And anytime they're about to say something e4 turns off the sound and we're treated to traffic noise.

[amnesiac]

The dips in e4 coverage are explained on www.channel4.com/bigbrotherlive
They are not as bad after 9pm and improve as the number of housemates decreases.

[amnesiac]

So the great African switch... what does everybody think? Haven't seen Gae or Cam in their new houses yet... personally it goes against the "back to basics" apporach we were promised this year... plus I have major issues with the editorial manipulation of the "public vote"... ack I'm still wtaching and voting though...

[redbulljunkie]

Saw the ads on E4 explaining the dips in sound, thought they were fairly class, really taking the piss out of themselves.

Thought it was good when they sent cameron out of the house but didn't tell the other housemates, instead telling them that he was going to be locked in a room on his own for a day or two and they were allowed shout in to him but he wasn't allowed talk back.

[amnesiac]

Well the British and Irish public have continually voted out the true "characters" of the show leaving quite a dull bunch to choose from. In the Geordie tones of the voiceover guy... "Who wins... Who cares?"

Cameron is favourite with odds of 1/2. Throughout the show there have been whispers that the production company have been biased towards the Orkney fish trader. Jon Tickle went back into the house with the aim of exposing the Shameron but has sadly failed.

So before you cast your votes (if anybody else is still watching) here's a report on Cameron's response to this weeks weekly task...

Favourite to win Big Brother, Cameron, says he doesn't think gay couples should be allowed to marry.

Cameron who is odds-on to win on Friday at 1/2, revealed his thoughts in the diary room.

As part of a final task in the house, housemates were asked to give opinions on popular moral dilemmas.

Cameron was asked whether he thought gay couples should be allowed to marry.

He said "I'm definitely of the opinion that couples should be husband and wife, not two husbands or two wives.

"What I'm basing it on is my beliefs that are found in the Bible that says that a man should not lie with a man."

Leaving the diary room with a worried expression on his face, it begs the question as to whether he thinks his views may have cost him the £70,000 prize.

[odyssey_scot]

whilst everyone is entitled to their own religious beliefs, that doesn't mean that I agree with them, and it doesn't mean that their beliefs should affect my (non religious) life.
Hence, I say "DON'T VOTE CAMERON!!"

lol

idiot, swallowing all that bible nonsense about gays..

[skysabove]

But if we can't vote for Cameron, what are we left with? Steph, the housework-lovin' munchkin, emotionally repressed Scott and emotionally unrepressed Ray (doing his best to reinforce every Irish stereotype).

Bring back Brian and Helen!

[redbulljunkie]

I think Ray is good. Everyone keeps saying "but if you just got to know the real scott, you'd see he's brilliant". But the fact is we didn't get to see the real him, therefore he didn't play the game well. Steph is boring. I think out of all the characters, Cameron did play the game the best, we actually saw character development with him. He may be homophobic but that's because he has to do what his bible tells him like a good little christian boy. The fucker's never been laid in his life because of that book so he's probably as much a victim as anyone else.

[amnesiac]

In previous Big Brothers I have voted for

Anna
Brian and
Kate respectively.

This year I'm voting for Scott. He's cute, seems like a decent guy, kept his head whilst all around him were losing theres and is somebody I could see myself going for a pint with. He didn't make for very entertaining TV but that's not the brief when eneteirng the Big Brother house.

If Nush had beaten Cameron last week my vote would have swung her way however. And I considered voting for Steph. But she won Fame Academy already!

[odyssey_scot]

yup, all as boring as hell..
don't want to vote for scott or ray.
don't feel I can vote for Cameron, I can't let him off the hook just because he's stupid enough to believe one damn book. Sorry lads, but tis the way I think!

so, am voting steph. probably cos me gf fancies her.

[skysabove]

Dermot said on Little Brother yesterday that Cameron would be an ideal presenter for Songs of Praise. You can totally see him ousting that Welsh guy, can't you?

I loved BB1 and 2, and watched pretty much every episode, but I've only been dipping in now and then for the last two. I think it's losing its appeal.

[amnesiac]

Songs of Praaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaise? Tha's maaaaaaaaaaad. To'allly maaaaaaaaaaaaad. I hooooope the grouuuuuuuuuuuuuuup will approooooooove. What an offfffffffer. Must try no' to fraight!

[amnesiac]

Channel 4 offering a "Which housmeate are you?" quiz. apparnetly I'm my favourite, NUSH!

Sweet, caring and sensitive, you come across as a fragile soul and love all things mystical. While you'd rather do a session of yoga than go clubbing, you love to have a good laugh with mates and are well like in your circle of friends.

With your warm and happy-go-lucky personality, be careful others don't take you for a ride!

And my personality breakdown
Cam 1
Jon 5
Nush 10
Ray 6
Steph 0
Scott 5

[redbulljunkie]

What's the link for it? Can't find it at all on www.channel4.co.uk

[amnesiac]

Sorry RBJ. http//bigbrother.channel4.com and it's fairly noticable on the Big brother UK homepage...
I bet you're Ray ;)

[redbulljunkie]

That was my first instinct as well "bet I'm ray" [)]. Time to try it and find out...

[redbulljunkie]

Yep, Ray. (bit worried that I got jon as a close second though [(])

Fiery you may be but there's a soft side too. Yu have no trouble in telling people what you really think and make a strong and fair leader. Self-confident but not arrogant, you have a flirty personality and are up for a laugh.

Just be careful not to take things too seriously and watch that temper! As a bunch of wig-wearing scousers might advise you "Calm down, calm down!"

Got Cameron 3
Jon 7
Nush 6
Ray 9
Steph 0
Scott 3

Definitely not a Steph, thank god [)]