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[Pipe Dreams]

This story was in today's Echo (but God know what the real story is)

Savoy No option but to close say directors

THE directors of the Savoy Theatre today admitted they have run out of options to reopen, and said Cork is after losing its best entertainment venue.

The owners have admitted defeat after the Revenue Commissioner turned them down for a liquor license.
“The reality is that I am not able to open,” said Jay Bourke, director of the theatre. “Cork has now lost its best venue and 85 people have lost their jobs.”

He said that after a two-month long fight since the 1,200-capacity venue was closed by the circuit court, the directors of the company had run out of options.
“We applied to the Revenue Commissioners for the liquor licence. The application was objected to by the State solicitor and the gardaí,” he said.
“The Revenue Commissioner then rejected the licence. No reason was given.”

He said there is no form of appeal available to the directors against that decision.
He said it was not feasible to re-open without the liquor licence.
“Would you go to a nightclub which did not serve alcohol? No other venue has that restriction. Whether you go to any entertainment venue, such as the Point or the RDS, you can get a drink.”

The news comes less that a week after Jazzy Jeff was due to mark the re-opening of the venue.
That was after Cork City Council granted the Savoy a theatre licence similar to that of the Cork Opera House or the Everyman.
However, that licence did not permit the sale of alcohol and without a liquor licence, the directors feel they cannot open.

[LeBaron]

This is crazy

[redbulljunkie]

I know.

I wished it stayed open as a live gig venue, I wouldn't care about not having drink at a gig.

[LeBaron]

I wonder what the objections were ?

[northsider]

The guards wanted it closed so they objected. Thats what i think anyway.
It's ridiculous really. I mean the likes of mangans amd the pav should not only be shut down but burned down!

[markinmanc]

the cynic in me thinks the owners have probably upset someone. or will have to sell it to someone else, who will then manage to get a liquour licence.

maybe they wouldnt 'play ball' with someone or other. not insinuating cork garda are corrupt or anything.

[LeBaron]

..... or unpleasent even

[Tom RED]

I heard that the owners of Riordans are buying it and it will have it's full licence so maybe your right. It is all secret politics and handshakes. It is like the Stone Cutters in the Simpsons

[LeBaron]

Ah ... the ole crooked finger handshake strkes again !

[Slayer]

"Who rigs every Oscar Night? We doo we doooo"

[LeBaron]

Ohhhh the POWER

[northsider]

Well then maybe we should revive the ancient and mystic order called...
"No Homers".........

[LeBaron]

Cruel..... but ....

[redbulljunkie]

Oh Christ not Reardens owning it. Then it will be the mystic order known as "no anybody" aka "regulars only".

[solice]

that is such a common occourence in cork its ridiculous. the day after brunos opened my brother was going in, he was stopped and told "regulars only tonight lads". seriously, it was only opened a day!!!!!!!! and already there was a regular only policy!!!!!!!!

[LeBaron]

I wonder what nite club de bouncers go to ?

[bo_selecta]

quoteOriginally posted by solice
that is such a common occourence in cork its ridiculous. the day after brunos opened my brother was going in, he was stopped and told "regulars only tonight lads". seriously, it was only opened a day!!!!!!!! and already there was a regular only policy!!!!!!!!



Ok i know this thread is headin off topic....but my brother gets hassle regularly gettin into night clubs (he looks younger than his age) and usually gets the "sorry it's over 21/23/25's tonight" excuse...one mention of the Equality Authority and the door seems to magically open!

[Bootyzilla]

Yeah, apparently it's illegal for a club to refuse anyone over the age of 18, on an age basis. Spare a thought for the bouncers, though... they do take their orders from top brass, after all, and personally i would hate to be a bouncer. Can you imagine trying to refuse a gaggle of Stellas and Conceptas from somewhere? You'd bleed...

[amnesiac]

Yeah don't take any shit from bouncers who claim an Over 21s policy.

Be sober.
Have valid ID.
Be early.
Dress well.
Do not be antagonistic but mention your rights under the Equality Legislation.

Works every time.

[redbulljunkie]

Give the bouncer some kind of friendly salute on the way in as well. Works wonders. Walking past while trying to avoid eye contact actually hurts the bouncers feelings (strange I know but that's what I've heard them say on some documentary, so I tried it an it worked).

[Slayer]

awww...poor bouncer's feelings.. poor little kitty kats. lmao

[damien]

The over 21 rule is coming back in thought isn't it ? McDowells rules for pubs and clubs I thought.

[amnesiac]

If McDowell had his way there would be no drinking in pubs and clubs and only straight, able bodied non travellers could frequent them betwene the hours of 7pm and 10pm. Makes for a better workforce )

[Slayer]

No, McDowell just wants anyone over 18 and under 21 to ALWAYS have ID with them or be liable to be fined obscene amounts of money.

[damien]

I like McDowell )

[solice]

i think the idea of mandatory id is an absolute disgrace and ifeel it is an extreme draconian measure. what happens to all the 22 year olds who get caught up in this, why dont i just carry id that tell s people im 22 or 23. this is not going to solve the problem but if mcdowell thinks that i am going to pay for yet another weak and pitiful method to curb under age drinking and buy a new id card, pffft, what a wanker

[amnesiac]

Most of us carry ID at all times anyway, be it our tracable mobiles, store loyalty cards, credit cards etc.
Big Brother is watching my dears. Put on a good show.

[bo_selecta]

Big brother my arse!
no one is forcing you to carry all those things!

as for the 18-21 year olds carrying ID cards...are there really enough cops to enforce it? Me thinks not!

[redbulljunkie]

Big brother yes. Okay so at the moment they're not "strictly mandatory" but that's just because they have to phase these things in bit by bit so people won't notice. Like if you want to boil a frog, you stick it in cold water and gradually turn up the heat. It's already been announced in Britain that you will need mandatory ID cards with iris scansand fingerprint profiles by the year 2012. And they also have the cheek to charge you 35GBP for them. How long before our wool-coated friends in the Dail follow suit?

[amnesiac]

No one is forcing us to carry these things? Fairly hard to get by in 2003 without using the internet, a credit card or a mobile phone Bo...

George Orwell's "Nineteen Eighty-Four" has come true in so many ways and the sad thing is most people are oblivious to it and don't seem to care about the way in whcih our liberty is constantly being eroded.

I could rant but there is a regular poster who represents my views much more eloquently and I have a lecture to go to. We can discuss it over a pint next Saturday night ) But I mightn't make it p

[bo_selecta]

quoteOriginally posted by amnesiac
No one is forcing us to carry these things? Fairly hard to get by in 2003 without using the internet, a credit card or a mobile phone Bo...

Oh I agree that these are all pretty useful things to have in this day and age.

The point i was making is that they are not mandatory and therefore your reference to "big brother is watching" was a bit over the top.

I know plenty of people who lead quite happy lives without credit cards...and a few who simply refuse to get a mobile. As for store loyalty cards? not much use to them really. Unless you want €1 off voucher some new fancy low in saturates high in mono-unsaturates dairy spread! Or build up a few thousand points to you can get a free toaster.

I look forward to solving the ills of the world over pints on Saturday night by the way.

[amnesiac]

The phrase "Big Brother is watching" has no correlation to the fact whether the "spying device" is mandatory or not (and I would argue that the items I have mentioned are as good as in Irish society). The fact is, corporations and the government are monitoring the vast majority of the population all the time.

[bo_selecta]

quoteOriginally posted by amnesiac
The fact is, corporations and the government are monitoring the vast majority of the population all the time.


But that happens everywhere doesn't it?

Have you ever seen the vast listening stations in the UK that intercept phone calls, etc?

Not a lot you can do about it really.

[amnesiac]

If you haven't read Nineteen Eighty-Four read it.

"Not a lot you can do about it really."

Apathy. Apathy is the real enemy.

*sigh*

[redbulljunkie]

and read brave new world/fahrenheit 451 as well. all short books.

[bo_selecta]

read them all....but thanks for the suggestions!

[solice]

*and as all of the gaycork members read through the forum each one is being monitored, details taken of what they said, who they talked to. as they walk the streets they are being watched, as they go out they are being followed, notes taken of any events, picures taken of any encounters. and all the info is being put into a big file and it will be sent to their mothers when they reach 1500 posts*

paranoia people. its a killer. the only people that are watching you are the security guys in shops. all the corporations and govt officies are only following trends in population movement.

i really dont think that bertie or cha is worried about what you ate for breakfast and i dont think that the hide of nike is worried about what you wear personally. they are all thinking on a larger scale, they are all thinking "outside the box"

im sure people have better things to be doing with their lives than watching us

[redbulljunkie]

Yes and in the US they're building up profiles of "potential terrorists".

[amnesiac]

From www.verilocation.com

Phone Track - Phone Tracking Services

Welcome to the revolutionary web based system that enables registered users to identify and track the locations of consenting mobile phone users. This automatic locating service uses mobile phone signals from the UK's major network operators, and combines them with the latest Internet technology to display a mobile phone's location on a street level map in any normal web browser. You can also access this information by making a simple phone call.

"The number of different commercial and domestic uses of Phone Track is only limited by your imagination."

Here are some suggestions of ways to use the Phone Track service

Family. Is your daughter still at her friend’s house? Because the service is discreet she will not be embarrassed with her peers thinking you are checking up on her. Relatives. An elderly relative is driving a long distance to visit. Without worrying them or disturbing their driving you can quietly check their progress. Delivery drivers. Who is the nearest driver to a customer’s office to collect an urgent parcel? Field based employees. Ever wondered where someone might be if they are late returning to the office? Protect their security by being able to find their whereabouts. Emergency services or health workers. Community nurses can be found and located when working in the homes of the public. Have all this information displayed on your screen at the touch of a button.

[redbulljunkie]

I love the way you can word anything to sound like a good thing these days. I'd actually love the facility myself though. Are your friends still in the pub? Do you ring them and then try to hear them over the noise "WHICH PUB ARE YOU IN? YES I KNOW IT'S A LOUD ONE WHICH ONE?" or do you ring this service? [)] "Ah it's a shithole. Lads, they're in fast eddies".

[amnesiac]

The wording scares the hell out of me.

[redbulljunkie]

"Is your spouse late home from the office? Why bother with trust when you can find her location quickly and easily"

[LeBaron]

Wow, this could revolutionise behaviour.
Imagine all the errant boyfriends having to remember to switch off thier mobiles before they " accidently " wander into Seseme Street

[redbulljunkie]

By the way, what do all these sesame street references mean?

[amnesiac]

Sesame Street is one of Cork's most notorious cruising grounds.
As is the Marina, the Leefields, the North section of the Quad in UCC and the staircase in the Other Place.

[LeBaron]

The staircase in the Other Place.... well you learn something new every day ! I thought that was just passing conversation.