Non Gay-Friendly Pubs

[northsider]

The directory section of the website lists gay-friendly establishments around Cork. I think it should also list non-gay friendly places. I think most pubs in Cork are pretty Gay Friendly and the attitudes to gay people has improves an awful lot. However there are a few places where management and bouncers seem to have a problem with gay people. I know most people who post here know where to go and where not to go but i think it would be helpful for people who are visiting Cork aswell as for younger people who don't want to be limited to the few places listed in the section.
I might be wrong here but places i would include would be The Bailey, Reardens, Havana Browns, Cubins, The Qube.
I know there are more but thats just a few. I'm sure people have had problems other places too?

[Bootyzilla]

Actually, that's a damn good idea. But instead of just Naming them, why not Name and Shame, and then advise the Publicans in question that they're sort-of blacklisted here in the hopes that they might try to effect a change?

It mightn't happen, but wouldn't it be worth it if we could use something like that to educate someone?

[amnesiac]

Oh and the next GayCork.com meet-up could be at the bar which tops the UnFriendly poll. Bag It Up, if you will!

[LittleTimmy]

I find Waxy's very endearing myself! Bill Morgans and Larry tompkins are really open minded aswell. The Fob and Gill (rob and kill) in Mayfield and the templeacre tavern in knocknaheeny are also good places to go too be relaxed with your partner of the same sex. These places definately wouldn't be on any gay-unfriendly lists!

[sent]

Yeah there are quite a few non-gay friendly places in Cork. However, I don't think we should try and take every pub over... let the straights have their own haunts. I mean we have our places where we all mix like the Bodega, Roundy, Raven etc.. but sometimes both gay and straight people like to go somewhere where they are around their own. So lets just let it be.

[Slayer]

I don't think we're talking about "taking over" a straight bar, I think we'd just like to know the ones that if you kiss your same sex partner in there there's a chance you'll get bottled.

[joeohara]

stay out of SG-1 in fermoy then

[NuMarvel]

Well Joe, I think it's fair to say that gay friendly or non gay friendly, EVERYONE should stay out of SG1 in Fermoy [-)]

Like the idea of "naming and shaming" so to speak and even better like the idea having a Gaycork.com meet up there!!

Don't know about the idea of "let the straights have their own haunts". I mean, gay or straight, we are all paying customers right? If I wanna go into a pub then I think I should go (as long as I'm acting within the boundaries of acceptable behaviour, etc) And if straight people wanna come into "our" pubs, then I think they are more than welcome, once again, as long as they are behaved.

So let's not divide ourselves anymore than we already do, okay?

[redbulljunkie]

quoteOriginally posted by LittleTimmy
The Fob and Gill (rob and kill) in Mayfield are also good places to go too be relaxed with your partner of the same sex. These places definately wouldn't be on any gay-unfriendly lists!


woah. I wouldn't have thought that of the rob and kill. I figured you'd be beaten up for being seen in there with a non-blood related partner!

[Slayer]

I presumed Little Timmy was being sarcastic tbh.

[LittleTimmy]

Me sarcastic??? Never! Well just a little yes. [8D]

[nutty tart]

I would consider the gay friendliness and resulting atmosphere of any pub in Ballincollig to be reminiscent of that of a spaghetti westeren when the bad guy walks in. Portrayed in text as follows;






*stony silence*

[nutty tart]

HEYYYYYY, Wasn't I sleeping up the ladder a month or two ago??

[markinmanc]

quoteOriginally posted by nutty tart
HEYYYYYY, Wasn't I sleeping up the ladder a month or two ago??


i guess you just got to work harder at it![D]

[Bootyzilla]

*sigh*

That's how it is around here, Nutty. Raise your drawers for even a second and you're back to square one.

*Booty realises he is not actually supposed to be talking about the Cork Scene*

Oh shit...

[Proud Mary 1980]

I think naming and shaming is an ok idea but where will it get us? Ok this is one of the reasons why a few of us wanted to and are setting up a group. Alot of pubs arent gay friendly, how silly can they get, do they not realise how many lgbt people there are in Cork, do they not know that if all LGBT people avoided non gay friendly places and all of their friends, how much money they'd lose, or are losing?

The same with people with disabilities, by not having a venue un
wheelchir friendliy how much money is being lost?

Old people, what if an old person can't access a place? I mean, we are all going to get old and maybe need wheelchairs, imagine, haha where would we go, is there a gay old folks home or day centre?

[candlemansa]

Over Christmas, I know of a gay couple who tried to get into SCOTTS, but the bouncer on the door knew they were a couple and refused them entry in front of all their friends. Since then the bouncer has been fired and far as I know is now bouncing in Club one. I was always under the impression Scotts was gay friendly but maybe its more to do with whos on the door rather then the actual pub.

[markinmanc]

if there is a query about his attitude to gay/lesbians etc, how does he end up working at one?

[solice]

i wouldnt be entirely opposed to the setting up of a black list but i wouldnt be the first to say that its a good idea. i dont think it is.

the reasons that many pubs, bodega, rhino rooms et al sell themselves as "gay friendly" is because it brings in more money. we can all say that "the bodega is a lovley pub, so warm and friendly" but like every other bussiness it found a niche and it is exploiting it. sure the case with the bouncer in scotts just highlights the issue of public homophobia and it should be stopped. but highlighting pubs that are "NON gay-friendly", why?

anyway, the vast majority if not all of the non friendly pubs are mingin, i for one wouldnt go to them if they were gay pubs so i am not bothered either way!

does that mean that taboo would be advertised as "NON straight friendly pub".

[Andor]

HAH!
My utmost sympathies to the pair intent on discovering the gay-unfriendly Dives of Cork!

[shibuya]

there are lots of reasons for a lot of pubs being non gay friendly,
homphobic owner, dreadful staff, rough customers, perhaps the quality
of the surroundings. I often go to the roundy and bodega and never
have a problem but then Im not going around hunging and kissing every
male i know.

[joeohara]

heres an idea just stay out of places that are not gay friendly there problem solved

[Rec]

I remember when I was first out on the scene I used to think it was as if there were pubs I was "allowed" kiss a guy in, and if a pub wasn't specifically gay or gay friendly I wasn't allowed kiss a guy in it.

Then I relaxed in my attitude and was out with my (at the time) bf and he's bi and I was his first bf, and we were in a straight bar in Dun Laoghaire and he had no probs kissing me but then the bartender told us to stop "for our own safety" and it was sad to see my ex's bubble burst.

Nowadays I'm pretty much open with who I kiss and where, and I don't let titles like gay-friendly or unfriendly stop me, but I still refrain from it if I think I'll be putting myself in danger.

[admin]

and can u imagine the law suits over naming and shaming pubs?

[jc]

how bout non-straight friendly pubs! this is about 2 years ago now but i was in taboo and i was scoring with a girl... the bar man told us to stop... i asked him why and he said to look around... everyone was staring!

i remember scoring with my at the time bf in the cube.. the bouncer came over and told us stop!

this is stupid like! u should be free to do what u please with whom ever u please wherever and whenever!

[Rec]

Hear hear JC - people kiss in nightclubs and pubs - so it's not the public display of affection they've a problem with - it's their blatant homo/heterophobia!
Was at a great talk by Rita from LINC about homophobia, and the bring home point was - who are we to judge what others do? What RIGHT do we have to say "oh you shouldn't do/be x, y or z."