favourite mod

[solice]

well hello everybody, this may cause a bit of a stir and for that i am not going to apologise. first off i would appreciate it if the moderators would not post on this thread. call it justice if you will!

there is now a new section in the forum, its for moderators only. this is a fantastic idea and well worth the thought and effort. you would think that it is a place where moderators would be able to get together and decide if warnings should be given and threads locked. so there could be a united front. but already only days in to it there is a thread that i think is very unfair started by amnesiac called "your favourite non mod". so for the fun of it i think that we should have a "favourite mod" thread.

now now mods, remember, we cannot post in your thread so ye should not post in this. deal!?!

but i think that if we are going to criticise it should be constructive so leave your handbags at the door thanks. we wouldnt want to get this thread locked for some silly reason!

well my favourite mod is slayer. she actually goes out of her way to make a warning and she tends to stay on topic too. she is not irrational and well let a debate go on and will only throw her weight around if it is absolutely necessary!
next in line would be mary. although both are only new moderators they have brought more to it than the others! IMO.

Sorry solice, but being a moderator I had to move this thread onto the most appropriate board. Please try and get it right in future will ya? Hugs and kisses, Mic.

[Dick Dart]

How is having a thread entitled "your favourite non-mod" unfair? It's just a bit of fun and it's a tribute to the little bits of opinion and thought that the people here put into the board. Would you have preferred that they included "favourite mod?" so they could vote amongst themselves in a nice little clique?

What's this about heavy-handed moderating. Aside from a few prematurely locked posts in the past (sometimes even moderators need to gain experience in these matters) the moderating here has been exemplery. Would you prefer that homophobic bigots such as jock and Charlie Wolfe be given free reign? How about ignorant people who "spam" the boards, suffocating the voices of everyone else? I think you solice should try visiting an unmoderated forum sometime so you can appreciate what you've got.

As someone said on another forum

I've only joined one other chat forum like this and it was almost completely unmoderated. The active membership was small and knew each other so slagging and the like were not a problem. What pissed me off though were threads 60 pages long which could and would go off on every possible tangent. Even finding your posts from the previous day to read the replys was a nightmare because the thread names had no relation to 90% of their content. I just couldn't deal with it.

Well done to amnesiac for closing that damn Conversation thread which Proud_Mary wanted to keep open. At least amnesiac and redbulljunkie argued the point well for closing it.

Sorry, went off on a rant there. Slayer and Proud_Mary seem like lovely people you're right. It just seems you're being a bit petty and trying to pit the moderators against each other.

[solice]

i said "unfair" because we are not able to view the thread and so have no idea who or what they are talking about but they can read this. they are evidently talking about members of the forum. i dont see having this thread as an issue but i think the same rules should apply. they should not be allowed to post on this thread like we are not allowed to post on theirs.

please dont move the thread off topic by talking about charlie wolfe and jock. those are very emotive topics and if you want to start them then start them in a different thread. this is about your favourite mod and why!

[redbulljunkie]

I can assure you that nothing nasty is being said about anyone in the moderator's thread. You can start a generic "favourite poster" thread here if you like and let moderators post to it.

When we're finished we'll use the results to decide who gets warned and who gets left off the hook etc.

[jc]

stop licking up solice! let them have their private forum!

[joeohara]

well i give proud mary my vote shes a total sweetheart and we have had some good chats , love ya loads babe , i think im going to cry

[Bootyzilla]

Originally posted by jc
stop licking up solice! let them have their private forum!


I concur. Has the French Revolution taught us nothing?? A heirarchy is only as strong as its subordinates want it to be. Leave 'em off!

[joeohara]

yeah let them eat cake

[NuMarvel]

Hmm favourite moderators.....

Has to be Redbulljunkie... or Amnesiac.... or ProudMary1980... Oh forget it, it's like asking me which sibling do I love most and (sniffle) I can't decide!!

You're all good babes!! Keep up the good work.

[Rec]

hmm slayer... proud mary...
can they be co-fave's????

[admin]

no votes for me [-(]

[LeBaron]

Hey... Your the boss.... No one ever votes for the boss !

[jc]

oh yeah... Admin gets my vote! the rest of em are too obsessed with causing fights and locking topics and sending people malicious warnings threatening them! scary!

[admin]

awww jc they are not that bad man, and LeBaron - fair point!

[LeBaron]

Your a nice Boss.... but the boss just the same

[Rec]

Tis true - it's just a boss thingy!

[jc]

so what exactly makes a person a moderator on this site? and whats the difference between a mod and an administrator? is it all run by that ucc lgb thing again... cos i know amnesaic and proud mary are both active lgb members! whats the story like!

[Rec]

No Gaycork and ucc are separate - it's just those two are internet junkies!!!! (lol)
Stop me if I'm wrong but this is how I make it
Admin is the guy who set up the GC site - he is Gosh almighty
Moderators are the peeps admin chooses to discipline the board being the almighty spam*****'s that they are [;)]
And we are the loyal sheep to be rounded up and made into cat food as they please

[jc]

lol! good one!
or should i say... baaaaaAAAAAAAh

[redbulljunkie]

Administrator has way more power. Can ban users, delete posts, re-arrange the board, do anything he likes.

Moderator is just a case of having slightly more authority to say "naughty naughty" and edit posts.

[admin]

for the record jc,

GayCork.com is voluntary run and is NOT allied to any Cork Queer Organisations (e.g. UCC's LGB!).

[jc]

oh right!

[Rec]

Ooh the moderator board is gone now ...or is it???
Scully I think there's something amiss in the people's republic!

Or maybe they decided that us seeing their topic headings was a bit too leaky and so made it more watertight! Fair enuf!

[redbulljunkie]

It's still there, just that if nothings been posted in a while, it doesn't show up in active topics.

[Rec]

Ah I was just about to point out my mistake! That's what I get for using the active topics webpage.
Cheers RBJ

[solice]

can i just direct rbj back to the original post in this thread and ask that he read it again before posting on the thread, at all!!!

good question jc, what does make a mod a mod? how does a mod become a mod? i know that some people asked to be mods and others were just chosen (i think). if you were to pick a mod then what would be the qualities you would look for in that person.

[Rec]

Responsibility I'd hope,
lack of trolling maybe?

[admin]

FYI - anyone can be a mod - all you have to do is ask!

So PM me if you like to be considered for the position, but since we only allow 4 mods at any one time, there is no position available at this time.

Likwise if you feel you have a problem with a mod or think you are being treated unfairly by one - then also just PM me with your issue/

[redbulljunkie]

And solice, I did read your original post, I just decided to ignore it. And I'm not interfering, I'm just answering questions by people here, as is Admin. You'd be the first one to bitch if I excluded people from a thread, just because you see yourself as "the underdog" doesn't mean you get to do it. If you've a genuine complaint, contact Admin, otherwise you can setup your own forum if you don't want me posting.

[jc]

people on this site are all way too bitchy!

[Proud Mary 1980]

I feel a few comments are getting personal and if they keep remain to be, this topic may be locked

[LeBaron]

I dont want to be seen as bitchy.... BUT I dont think its right to say we are ALL way to bitchy, bit of a generalisation there for a start... and anyway in general I have seen very little bitchiness here......

Now thats my little bitch out of the way.

[)]

[TheExile]

My own view of moderators on this site for what it's worth is this-

This site by its very nature means lots of emotive issues are discussed. Often there are many different opinions, which all make for useful, interesting and lively debate. I don't personally believe that are either right or wrong answers to our questions. Merely opinons. As a relatively 'older' contributor (by way of age) and someone whose lives away from Cork, it's interesting and informative to hear others views. Not that I've always agreed with them, or them with I...

Obviously it's good solid debate that keeps a forum alive and keeps people returning. If we all agreed with each other, it would make for boring reading.

But the issue I have site moderators, and to an extent has kept me away from this site, is the way that moderators often cross the line from that of a contributor on a particular discussion, to being a moderator and taking action such as locking a thread. Particularly when the last posting was from someone whose view point they have already stated they disagree.

I personally don't believe this is helpful and often causes unecessary ill feeling.

My own belief is that what makes a good moderator is that they are seen to be impartial something which is difficult to achieve when you've already been involved in a heated or lenghty debate.

Perhaps it would be better if moderators only moderate on discussions that they have not been involved in. That way at least, they can be seen to act impartially and in the best interests of the site.

Anyway, nice to see your all alive and kicking....

[jc]

I think this was a very harsh comment TheExile...

In a way I agree with you in that topics ahve become locked b4 for what seemed like an unjust reason, but then, having looked back and read the involved posts...i felt the moderators were completely in the right to stop it! i mean, when posters become abusive to others, its definatley not doing gaycork any favours. the atmosphere becomes strained and not inviting to users to speak freely. i know i for one would not appreciate the moderators sitting back, doing nothing, when someone is dishing out abuse at me! id be livid!

so ya i agree the attitude of blocking a topic when a certain moderators views are being challenged is wrong, but i dont think i have experienced an example of this on this site...
except maybe the converation thread belong to Proud Mary... that got blocked for the wrong reason... one of the moderators read into it the wrong way...
at least they dont delete the topics completely!

[damien]

If the site had a larger number of posters then it should be encouraged that mods do not take part in heated discussions on forums they moderate as it can prove to be very hard to stay even handed as a mod with a poster when you and that same poster are having a big barney in the forum.

But because the amount of regular posters is small it might not work here. It has been seen before here that moderators have edited peoples posts or else locked a thread and then re-edited what they were saying to make themselves look better, but I haven't seen a recent ooccurrence of this.

[jc]

lol... thats funny!

[solice]

"pink parade-gay issues student radio show" that was locked on the 3rd of feb had the first post on it edited. i dont know what was changed in it but it was changed.

[amnesiac]

No it was not Solice it was made "unsticky" by me tonight as it is no longer considered topical enough to merit being artificially top of the board.

Could you please get your facts right beofre mouthing off about the work that the four of us do voluntairly and for little descernible benefit?

(Seeing as you could not keep to your self-imposed T&C on this thread, I have no qualms posting on it).

[solice]

as i said, i didnt know what was changed on it but someting was. amnesiac you were a bit too quick to lay such criticsm. all you had to do was point out what you did and there would be no need for you to get so aggressive

[amnesiac]

I don't see why the moderators should have to report to you solice. For someone who made such a big deal requesting that this thread be solely about one's favourite moderator and insistence that moderators not post, your inaccuracy "i dont know what was changed in it" was a little rich.

The five of us are the only members put up with a level of personal criticism that quite rightly would not be allowed to be levelled at any other member. As you seem very fond of making public statements about our behaviour and actions (as opposed to most other users who PM Admin or one of the mods with real concernc), try and get them correct will you?

[damien]

Actually is publically airing ones grievances more transparent than a private message ? It allows others to take part in the debate. Standing up for what one believes in public is a lot braver than doing it behind closed doors.

[Rec]

It depends on the circumstances. I personally always favour settling things in person.

[amnesiac]

Most valid concerns about the way the board is operated and how it could be improved are fair fodder for a thread posting in the SITE FEEDBACK AND REQUESTS FORUM. What's annoying is when somebody starts a thread, asking moderators not to take part in it and other users to simply mention their favourite mod and nothing else on the same thread, and then to post inaccurate criticisms of the moderators.

[damien]

Originally posted by amnesiac
and then to post inaccurate criticisms of the moderators.


What inaccurate criticisms ? All i read there was that a note was made that the first post of a thread was edited. And it was. It even states it in the linked thread. The state of the thread was changed, the state was edited.

[amnesiac]

Solice stated that something "in" it was changed... nothing in it was changed.

[amnesiac]

And now I'm posting... my favourite moderator is Slayer. She reminds me of when I felt young and carefree and the world seemed like a place with endless opportunities for a young Cork Queer. She's sweet, doens't lose her cool but will take shit from NO ONE.
She rocks.

[damien]

The post has been marked as edited. Its more the forum softwares fault for marking it as edited when it was just unstickied.

But while the fact that something in it was changed was not accurate, its state was changed, but how was this a criticism ?

[Rec]

So who's your fave mod Damien?

[amnesiac]

As Solice had stated that this thread should only be about one's favourite moderator and why, his post seemed to be a reply to yours

It has been seen before here that moderators have edited peoples posts or else locked a thread and then re-edited what they were saying to make themselves look better, but I haven't seen a recent ooccurrence of this.

In my opinion, noting a software glitch (which has been pointed out to Admin before but he obviously needs more reminding) or questioning what had happened on a sepearte thread would have been appropriate. If every time I or the other mods have to edit a post (it's not as if we do it for pleasure) wehave to explain ourselves to this line of questioning as well as informing Admin what we've edited and why then I for one shall be asking said Admin to relieve me of my moderator duties.

Now I'm going to go have sopme pizza. 'night.

[Slayer]

Ok, wasn't gonna post, let's just keep it friendly here ok people?

We're all friends here. xx

[admin]

there's no need to get all excited here, when the obvious fault lies with software and not people....

[amnesiac]

Who writes the software?
[p]

[admin]

Snitz Forums 2000 with some mods by me.

[amnesiac]

People.
The fault always lies with people.
[p]

[Rec]

Hmm if you get rid of the people.... and use them to mine the precious ores! Then...

[damien]

This thread veered seriously offtopic before my post or solices reply to my post. And its not as if this is rare, its a very regular occurrence on all forums and in all threads on this site and this sin is commited by moderators as much as non-moderators. Mostly it doesn't matter as the content of threads isn't in anyway serious or useful.

I think mods should have to answer if they edit a thread if just for continuity. A simple note in square brackets would be enough to keep even the biggest conspiracy nuts happy. There is no reason to get hypersensitive if you are questioned about why you edited something is there ?

[LeBaron]

Its ALL Bill Gates fault anyway !.... So There

[damien]

Originally posted by Rec
So who's your fave mod Damien?


I don't play favourites.

[bo_selecta]

When i grow up I want to be a moderator and a fireman.

[Rec]

Amnesiac said he wants to be a fireman so he can play with bigger hoses! I had fireman lego when I was a kid but I didn't like them cause they were dogs and I preferred the cat restaurant owners.

If the moderators were animals waht would they be?

[damien]

/must restrain my cutting humour /

[Slayer]

No, Damien, please, entertain us. [p]

[LeBaron]

Do please

[jc]

ya! go on like! fill is in! we're dying to hear it!